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  What is Your Favorite WT Lie?

  by Sea Breeze in

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  i would like to start a thread on lies that the watchtower and their reps have told.

  surely we all have one or two that truly sticks out in our memories, no matter how much we would like to forget.

  my favorite wt lie: the reason they don't want to release the name of the "scholars" who worked on the new world translation is because they do not want to accept "glory and honor" from others.

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  Sea Breeze

  @Ultimate Axiom - Great list. Thanks!

  How about this one: Pastor Russell's wife tried to take control of the Watchtower so he had to legally separate from her. It had nothing to do with him being caught in the maids' bedroom with the door locked.

  
  
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  The case from Denmark - setttled in The European Court

  by AndersonsInfo in

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  beninu andersen.

  denmark.

  i am not aware of how many of you are familiar with the danish case of a jehovah's witness who was hospitalized after a tragic accident where he fell several floors from a scaffolding where he was working.. the patient was admitted to the intensive care unit and was conscious (albeit somewhat confused) for the first three weeks.

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  Many thanks for the update.
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  Creation, Not Evolution Best Explains Genetics

  by Sea Breeze in

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  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umnhg0a9dlu.

  evolutionists can change their model, and invent stories whenever they want to accomodate data.

  biblical literalists are stuck with just one model, one account, and are unable to change it.

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  Genetic programming is no accident.

  Of course it's no accident. Anyone who objectively looks at the data knows this.

  
  

  

  Geneticist John Sanford - author of Genetic Entropy: and one of the editors of Biological Information: - addressing the prestigous National Institute of Health.

  Dr. Sanford, longtime Cornell Professor and author of hundreds of peer reviewed papers started out as an evoltionist, indoctrinated as we all were in public school to accept the standard evolution line. The man is a national treasure with some of his work and inventions featured at the Smithsonian Institute.

  Starting at the 20:20 minute mark, Dr. Sanford explains how, using very liberal and accomodating population sizes, number of offspring, and other factors, the best "evolution" could do is to produce ONE eight letter genetic word every 18 Billion years! That's longer than the supposed age of the universe. Evolutionists have run out of billions of years.

  Will they find more, or just go into denial?

  
  

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqIjnol9uh8&t=1s

  
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  What is Your Favorite WT Lie?

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i would like to start a thread on lies that the watchtower and their reps have told.

  surely we all have one or two that truly sticks out in our memories, no matter how much we would like to forget.

  my favorite wt lie: the reason they don't want to release the name of the "scholars" who worked on the new world translation is because they do not want to accept "glory and honor" from others.

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  Sea Breeze

  Duly noted Blondie.
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  Pre-Nicene christians and the trinity

  by joey jojo in

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  this is just a quick summary that might be useful regarding the threads about the trinity currently on the board.. in 325 ce, the nicene council was called by constantine to settle schisms within the christian church.

  the argument about the nature of jesus in relation to god was one of the big problems that needed resolution.

  at first, constantine told the 2 main players, alexander and arius to sort it out between themselves, as he, constantine didnt see it as overly important.

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  If you believe that you can see God's hand involved then you are delusional.

  Unless you saw a man predict his own sacraficial death and self resurrection from the dead. That's the point to all this and what is missing from history deniers' narrative.
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  Pre-Nicene christians and the trinity

  by joey jojo in

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  this is just a quick summary that might be useful regarding the threads about the trinity currently on the board.. in 325 ce, the nicene council was called by constantine to settle schisms within the christian church.

  the argument about the nature of jesus in relation to god was one of the big problems that needed resolution.

  at first, constantine told the 2 main players, alexander and arius to sort it out between themselves, as he, constantine didnt see it as overly important.

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  Sea Breeze

  Anony Mous,

  I read your post twice above and cannoit understqand your point. Please clarify.
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  The unending and fruitless argument on Trinity

  by Longlivetherenegades in

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  those who say they are christians or follow christianity needs .

  1. father .

  2. jesus .

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  It is amusing to watch heretics imagine they are orthodox.

  There is simply no debate on this. Just google "early church fathers of the deity of Jesus" and read what the first and second generation leaders taught.
  
  That should end the disdusion. But, for people who wont believe the bible, certainly anyone else will be equally ignored.
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  Pre-Nicene christians and the trinity

  by joey jojo in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this is just a quick summary that might be useful regarding the threads about the trinity currently on the board.. in 325 ce, the nicene council was called by constantine to settle schisms within the christian church.

  the argument about the nature of jesus in relation to god was one of the big problems that needed resolution.

  at first, constantine told the 2 main players, alexander and arius to sort it out between themselves, as he, constantine didnt see it as overly important.

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  Sea Breeze

  Early Christian leaders wrote thousands of pages in letters to one another combatting heretics. Most of these works survive. If you look at the writings of first disciples that the apostles trained and their disciples, it is easy to figure out.

  Like this:

  Nine Early Church Fathers Who Taught Jesus Is God

  Anyone who ignores the clear evidence in the bible, the early christian leaders writings, and common sense is welcome to their delusion.

  If Jesus wasn't God, how did he resurrect himself from the dead like he predicted? If you say, oh, he didn't God resurrected him, the the bible wrong and Jesus is a liar and the greates con artist who ever lived.

  In John 10:17–18 Jesus says something that no mere mortal could ever say: “I lay down my life—only to take it up again. No one takes it from me, but I lay it down of my own accord. I have authority to lay it down and authority to take it up again.”

  No one else in the history of the world has ever had the authority both to lay down his life and to raise it up again.
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  What is Your Favorite WT Lie?

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i would like to start a thread on lies that the watchtower and their reps have told.

  surely we all have one or two that truly sticks out in our memories, no matter how much we would like to forget.

  my favorite wt lie: the reason they don't want to release the name of the "scholars" who worked on the new world translation is because they do not want to accept "glory and honor" from others.

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  Sea Breeze

  How about this one: "Our meetings are free, there is no obligation"

  

  There is a reason the cheese is free.
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  Creation, Not Evolution Best Explains Genetics

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umnhg0a9dlu.

  evolutionists can change their model, and invent stories whenever they want to accomodate data.

  biblical literalists are stuck with just one model, one account, and are unable to change it.

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  Sea Breeze

  I personally don't think there is such a thing as orthodox Jews today in the original sense of the word. Back in the day, the Essenes were the orthodox Jews, the Saducees were the secularists and the Pharisees were the professional religionists that held their elders meetings to determine how to interpret scripture. Dr. Ken Johnson has translated a lot of the dead sea scrolls, and his work really opens the door to what was going on in the Jewish community before and after the time of Christ.

  The past president of the Flat Earth Society was an evolutionist. I'm sure it was just a coincidence.